Blago hits talk show circuit as impeachment trial begins
SPRINGFIELD -- Impeachment prosecutors said Monday Gov. Rod Blagojevich's own words will show he so violated the public trust that he should be the first governor in Illinois' checkered political history to be kicked out of office.
At the same time, Blagojevich was still refusing to explain his own words caught on federal wiretaps as he paraded before five national TV shows based on the East Coast in a boycott of his impeachment trial at the state Capitol.
Today, the public is scheduled to get its first listen to a portion of those tapes - a nearly five-minute segment in which the governor allegedly tries to trade signing a law benefiting racetracks for campaign cash
Blagojevich said Monday that tape will be heard out of context. He said the entire recorded conversations would eventually tell "the real story."
And the embattled governor even upped his rhetoric Monday night on CNN's "Larry King Live," calling for all of the secretly recorded conversations to be released to prove his innocence - despite the fact that he filed a court statement Jan. 7 opposing the release of "any tapes or transcripts, redacted or unredacted" to lawmakers. The governor has not filed an official request to release all the tapes.
"I wish we could have all those tapes made public tomorrow," Blagojevich bemoaned after being pressed about the criminal allegations.
Blagojevich also seemed to suggest he may have said the things prosecutors accuse him of, but that it was just talk and therefore not a crime.
"Think about some of the things people say all the time that they don't mean," he said at one point.
Blagojevich said that despite whatever he might have been recorded as saying, "When the decision was made and the action was taken it was always, always in the best interests of the people of Illinois."
The two-term governor is still refusing to provide the full context he claims will prove his innocence. He told King that court rules bar him from talking about the trial. Then he backtracked, saying the rules only suggest he keep silent. He didn't specify what rule he was referring to.
"When I have my day in court I will prove that and I will clear my name," the governor said of his innocence on the "Today" show.
The governor will be even more pressed for answers today after lawmakers hear the released FBI tape and hours of testimony from an FBI agent involved in the sweeping Blagojevich investigation.
"These words at times may shock you. At times they will probably disgust you," said prosecutor David Ellis in his opening arguments Monday. "These words will demonstrate a fundamental breach of the public trust. A violation of the governor's oath. These words from the governor's own mouth ... will show that the governor put his office up for sale."
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Blagojevich was arrested on Dec. 9 by federal agents on charges that include trying to sell off for financial or personal gain his ability to pick President Barack Obama's successor in the U.S. Senate and shaking down a children's hospital for campaign donations in exchange for state funding.
The impeachment case covers those allegations but also branches out in an effort to prove "a pattern of abuse of power" to include the governor's history of bypassing lawmakers and constitutional requirements while spending millions of taxpayer dollars.
The case is unique. It is not a criminal proceeding. Each of the 59 senators is left to make his or her own decision on whether the governor should be convicted. It will take 40 votes to do so.
"Impeachment and an impeachment trial is not a criminal proceeding," Ellis reminded senators. "It is not punitive in nature. We are not here today to punish Governor Blagojevich. The purpose of impeachment is remedial, is to protect the citizens of this state from the abuses of an elected officer when a public official so abuses his authority, so breaches the public trust, so clearly violates his oath of office that he is no longer fit to govern."
Presiding over the Senate is Illinois Supreme Court Chief Justice Thomas Fitzgerald. The senators act as judge and jury, sitting quietly while testimony is given and sending questions to Fitzgerald.
"This is a solemn and serious business we are about to engage in," Fitzgerald said in opening the trial.
Monday's proceedings, while historic, were mostly procedural. Prosecutors won approval to include the recently released federal wiretap tapes and present Special Agent Daniel Cain, whose affidavit accompanied the charges against Blagojevich.
Most votes on witnesses and evidence cleared unanimously, but there was some disagreement on how the case will proceed with one Chicago lawmaker arguing they should be able to vote on separate charges instead of a number of complaints listed as one charge.
State Sen. Rickey Hendon, a Chicago Democrat, said he's supported the governor on some of his health-care policy expansions that are now the basis for the abuse-of-power claim.
"Is giving children health care an impeachable offense?" he asked prosecutors, going on to compare it to President Richard Nixon's decision to bomb Cambodia, a move that was not included in the Nixon impeachment case because it was deemed covered by executive privilege.
Hendon, however, said the governor should be at the trial, a sentiment several other senators echoed.
"I cannot and will not hold it against the governor that he's not here. That's his right," said state Sen. Kirk Dillard, a Hinsdale Republican. "But it certainly is irksome to have a governor off doing televisions shows in New York rather than being here at his own trial."
In New York, Blagojevich continued to argue that the trial is unfair because he is not allowed to call witnesses related to the criminal trial. Some potential Senate picks and political insiders have said they were unaware of any pay-to-play dealing, but those statements don't contradict the criminal complaint against the governor.
Several times when Blagojevich tried to argue the trial is unfair, interviewers cut him off to confront him with his own damning words caught on federal wiretaps, including that he called the Senate seat a "valuable thing" to be traded for campaign cash or a lucrative job.
"These were private conversations that were taking place over a long period of time," Blagojevich told Barbara Walters on "The View." "Under no circumstances was I trying to sell a U.S. Senate seat. Under no circumstances did I break any laws."
Blagojevich told Walters the Senate appointment involved "complicated politics" and an attempt to "leverage" the appointment to create jobs and health-care coverage in Illinois.
Yet, federal prosecutors have the governor on tape prioritizing the appointment criteria this way: "our legal situation, our personal situation, my political situation. This decision, like every other one, needs to be based upon that. Legal. Personal. Political," he allegedly told his chief of staff in November.
"The View" appearance came in the middle of a rapid-fire list of TV interviews, starting with "Good Morning America" and the "Today" show and ending with CNN's "Larry King Live." and ABC's "Nightline."
On "The View," the hosts expressed bewilderment at why the governor was taking his case to the airwaves.
"This is turning into a bit of a media circus," said Whoopi Goldberg. "I wonder if you are not hurting yourself more than helping yourself."
The hosts then teased the governor. One messed up his iconic hair. And they asked him to impersonate disgraced President Richard Nixon and declare "I'm not a crook."
He refused.
During one morning appearance, Blagojevich said he considered naming Oprah Winfrey to the Senate.
Winfrey said she would have turned him down.
"I'm pretty amused by the whole thing," Winfrey told "The Gayle King Show" on Sirius XM Radio. "I think I could be senator, too. I'm just not interested."
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