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updated: 10/24/2012 10:51 PM

Bulls' Hamilton can feel Hinrich's pain

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The Bulls offered no concrete news Wednesday about Kirk Hinrich's groin strain. But that was one of several injuries Richard Hamilton endured last season, so he was able to provide some insight.

"It's tough, because you want to be careful with it. A groin can linger," Hamilton said. "You just want to jump on it as quick as possible.

"The one thing that was good with him was he didn't come back and play the second half (on Tuesday against the Thunder).

"Sometimes your adrenaline will allow you to say, 'Nah, I don't want to sit out. I'll figure it out at the end of the game.' That's what most players do."

Bulls trim two players:

The Bulls trimmed their roster to 13 players by releasing guards Marko Jaric and Ryan Allen after Wednesday's practice.

The last two cuts were always inevitable. The Bulls are hard-capped this season because they used two different salary-cap exceptions in the summer to sign Kirk Hinrich and Marco Belinelli.

They can't add anyone for the full season right now and likely will save their money for later in the season when 10-day contracts are allowed.

Van Gundy warns league:

During a conference call, ESPN analyst Jeff Van Gundy shared this message about the Bulls:

"I'll tell you what, the Bulls are not going anywhere," he said. "They play too hard; they play too well together. I'll tell you, coach (Tom) Thibodeau has them every night they're going to come out and they're going to throw the kitchen sink at you.

"They're going to push you, 'D' you up. They're going to be physical. They're going to keep coming at you, and you just normally just say you've had enough because you just can't take that defensive pressure they put on you."

In the interest of full disclosure, Van Gundy employed Thibodeau as an assistant coach in New York and Houston, and the two remain close friends.

Rip digs underdog story:

Richard Hamilton talked about the low expectations placed on the Bulls this season while Derrick Rose recovers from ACL surgery.

One example was 80 percent of NBA general managers picking Indiana to win the Central Division.

"We love it because you love to be the underdog," Hamilton said. "You love to do stuff when people don't expect you to do anything. It makes you want to do it even more."

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